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HOLLY, Michigan – For former water billing representative Gwen Walters, her unexpected termination from the village of Holly, isn’t just “water under the bridge.”
A seven-year employee with the village of Holly, Walters’ job was terminated March 16 for zero balances and credit charges on water and sewer services for approximately 23 village resident accounts dating back to 2005. Walters said Village Manager Marsha Powers blamed the billing discrepancies for approximately $23,000 in uncollected funds.
On Monday, Walters verbally notified Clerk/Treasurer Susan Nassar that she would be filing a grievance for wrongful termination through her union, Teamsters Local 214.
Walters said she was originally hired in 2003 by Powers, who then served as clerk/treasurer and the then-Village Manager Tom Ault. Walters took over for retiring village staffer Gail Kernen.
“Everything was pretty smooth,” Walters said of her first six years with the village. “I did get written up one time and that was for being late, but I didn’t grieve it,” she said. “I was late – I had it coming.”
Since May of last year, the village has been embroiled in union negotiations for a dozen village employees, some working in the village offices and others at the Department of Public Works, and the waste water treatment facility. To date and for a variety of different reasons, the village and the union have yet to come to a contract agreement.
Walters said her life at the office and relationship with Powers began to deteriorate last August, after she took the place of fellow employee, Kevin Durgan, as union steward.
With the new role of union steward, Walters said she received a flurry of write-ups and counseling memos for various situations in the office where management felt she had made derogatory comments to fellow employees. The series of reprimands culminated in January with a three-day unpaid suspension for billing mistakes, Walters said.
“When we did quarterly billing, we used to put the billing cycle range on there which would be the first of the month to the last day of the end of the cycle,” Walters explained. “But when we went to monthly billing, Marsha felt that it would be easier for people to understand if we went from the previous read date to the current read date, so we changed that.”
Changing from the old system to the new required Walters to make sure the billing cycle field on each bill was properly selected. “The system defaults to a ‘one’ which is the billing cycle date range,” Walters said. “If you change it to a ‘two’ it tells the system to print the meter read dates, so it defaulted to the old format which we weren’t using and that caused the errors.”
Walters said she had suggested changing the default setting to eliminate the possibility for error, but that neither Powers nor Nassar ever implemented her idea.
“I got written up and suspended for three days without pay for it,” Walters said. “But when I came back, they had gone back to the old format, so when it defaults, it’s now correct.
“I know it sounds paranoid, but I sort of feel like it was a trap,” Walters said.
Walters said her former job is only a small part of the overall water billing process, and that “zero reads” are typically forwarded onto the DPW personnel for review.
“As a billing person, I had no idea of whether a meter was functioning properly, or if the home was vacant,” Walters said. DPW staffers are responsible for following up on the zero reads in the field, either by repairing or replacing the meter, and/or later providing the water billing representative with the correct data for billing purposes.
“I can tell you that a lot of village residents have come into or called the offices with issues about their meters not functioning properly,” Walters said. “Billing errors can occur for a multitude of reasons – it’s not all just about data entry.”
Over the years, Walters says she can’t begin to estimate how many times she brought the issue of zero balances and sewer credits up to Powers. “I mentioned it at least one time per billing cycle – sometimes more than once,” Walters said.
Prior to her numerous write-ups and suspension, Walters said she had never received any negative feedback on her job performance, and always had exemplary yearly reviews.
Despite working for the village for nearly seven years, Walters said she only received a total of two reviews. “I only had two reviews and to my knowledge, nobody else in the office has had more than two, either.”
On March 16, Walters said Powers called her into her office at 12:30 p.m. to let her know that they would be having a job performance meeting at 12:45 p.m. Powers told Walters she could contact the alternate union steward, Durgan, if she wanted.
In addition to Powers, Walters, and Durgan, Rollie Gackstetter, chief of police attended the meeting. Walters was told that they were holding a “Loudermill” hearing regarding the 23 water and sewer bills dating back to 2005. Powers said she asked Gackstetter to sit in on the hearing because Nassar was out of the office for training that week.
The “Loudermill” hearing is the “due process” requirement that must occur prior to an employer imposing severe discipline on an employee or terminating their employment. The purpose of the hearing is to provide an employee the opportunity to present his or her side of the story before the employer makes a decision on discipline.
Union Business Representative Les Barrett said that normally he would receive a Loudermill letter from the employer, outlining the specific charges being brought against the employee. On Monday, Barrett said he had absolutely no contact from the village about the Loudermill hearing, nor had he received a Loudermill letter outlining the charges against Walters.
“There isn’t a formal requirement for it, but typically, the employer gets a hold of me and informs me of the charges,” Barrett said. At that point, Barrett said a Loudermill hearing would normally be scheduled at a later date so that the employee would have ample time to address the issues he or she is facing, and also have Barrett’s support in the meeting.
“The first I heard of the hearing was that it had already taken place,” Barrett said. “Never in my 30 years of working for the union have I ever had an employer complete the whole process in one meeting – it’s just not done.”
Walters was especially surprised to find Powers tape recording the entire meeting. “I asked her why they were taping it and they said it was their right to tape the meeting,” Walters said. While Loudermill hearings can be taped, Barrett said both parties must be in agreement, provided the village didn’t have a court order.
“There is no law that prohibits the taping and yes, she was told the village has the right to tape the hearing,” Powers said on Thursday. “Under Loudermill rights, it states that notes of the meeting should be taken by both sides.”
During the hearing, Walters said she reminded Powers that she was her direct supervisor during those years when the billing discrepancies occurred. “She just told me – and it’s on the tape - that it wasn’t her job to watch me, that the billing mistakes were totally my responsibility.”
Walters was unsure of the exact charges brought against her since the village would not provide her with a copy of the charges, or a copy of the tape recording.
“I believe the charges are with specific reference to three articles in the personnel manual, and they also talked about overall incompetence and carelessness on the job,” Walters said. “But as far as being more specific, I can’t because they refused to give me a copy of anything.”
Walters said that she and Durgan had both requested a copy of the charges and the tape recording, but they were told that they would have to formally request the information from the village in writing.
As far as addressing other allegations made by Walters, Powers said as her former employer, the village is unable to comment any further on the matter.
Walters said she will complete the steps required in the grievance process, and will then be handing the issue off to her union representative.
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I care very deeply about the people and the families in the Village of Holly and the surrounding areas. As a long time resident of the area myself I am deeply affected by the same issues as my friends and neighbors. I apologize if you had a bad experience at the offices. I try very hard to make people comfortable when they have a problem and to explain it to the best of my ability or find someone who can.
I love Holly.
I was so outraged by this comment I had to look up the information myself and I encourage you to do the same before you continue to spout off more disinformation.
According to city-data.com, when comparing Holly to Flint or Pontiac, I see absolutely no basis for your comment.
POPULATION (Holly had growth):
Pontiac Population in July 2008: 66,095. Population change since 2000: -0.4%
Flint Population in July 2008: 112,900. Population change since 2000: -9.6%
Holly Population in July 2008: 6,273. Population change since 2000: +2.2%
ESTIMATED INCOME (Holly had growth):
Pontiac median household income in 2008: $30,988 (it was $31,207 in 2000)
Flint median household income in 2008: $28,142 (it was $28,015 in 2000)
Holly median house or condo value in 2008: $132,326 (it was $105,400 in 2000)
ESTIMATED HOME VALUES (Holly property has more value):
Pontiac median house or condo value in 2008: $91,700 (it was $73,400 in 2000)
Flint median house or condo value in 2008: $64,300 (it was $49,100 in 2000)
Holly median house or condo value in 2008: $132,326 (it was $105,400 in 2000)
What am I missing and what are you trying to say because it looks like you're just spreading more false information about our home town and adding to the problem.
Estimated Income for Holly: Estimated median household income in 2008: $50,645 (it was $46,436 in 2000)
I appreciate the many things Holly has to offer and live Holly life to the fullest. But, I'm not so blinded and biased that I ignore its weaknesses.
Bottom line: who's more a part of the problem...someone who can look at Holly objectively and see opportunities of what we can become, or someone who's easily "outraged" when others imply we're not quite the "gem" we used to be?
But what I will take issue with is that "the town" is trying to run people out. I feel that is a very unfair and irrational statement that focuses more on blaming and finger pointing that looking at root causes and the "conditions on the ground". To whose benefit is it to "run people out"? The community residents, who suffer from reduced services and higher water bills because our tax base and utility usage has eroded? Our public officials, who are charged with balancing a budget or making bond payments with ever decreasing revenue?
No, the only people who benefit from people being run out of town are those who would rather complain about it than being involved, understanding the issues, and taking responsibility for improving their own community. I'm thankful that this group is in the minority.
Since Iââà¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¡Ã‚¬Ã¢à ƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¾Ã‚¢ve lived here in the village for over 13 years my taxes have gone up every year except this year. This was mainly due to increasing property value. Now due to a decrease in property value Iââà¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¡Ã‚¬Ã¢à ƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¾Ã‚¢m seeing my first decline ever. There are those that would use this decline after decades of increases to clamor for an increase in our millage. Lets resist this and allow the people to finally enjoy a decrease in their taxes for the first time in decades.
Also, Iââà¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¡Ã‚¬Ã¢à ƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¾Ã‚¢d like to see the council members go on record as to how they will balance future budgets. Are you for cutting or raising revenue? Itââà ¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚¬Ã¢ à ƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¾Ã‚¢s not to much to ask our elected officials so we can make decisions on who we will vote for. When I asked Pete what he would do he said
âââ €šÂ¬Ã†¦ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…“If in the future we are confronted with additional revenue losses then the Council will approve a budget that conforms to those revenues and each department will need to make the appropriate adjustments.âââ €šÂ¬Ã ¡Ãƒâ€šÃ‚Â
This sounds comforting but he doesnâà¢ÃƒÂ¢ €šÂ¬Ã¢ à ƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¾Ã‚¢t explicitly say heââà ¢ €šÂ¬Ã¢ à ƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¾Ã‚¢s against raising revenue.
As for Holly vs. Flint or Pontiac, itââà ¢ €šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s fair to compare them, just like itââà ¢ €šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s fair to compare Holly to Fenton or Milford. Truth is, Hollyâà¢ÃƒÂ¢ €šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢s a fairly eclectic mix of all of those mentioned. While living in Holly doesnâà¢ÃƒÂ¢ €šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢t equate to living in Flint, does Holly have a handful of Flint-like elements? Yes it does. Iââࢠ€šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢m not sure what all the defensiveness is about this.
You would also have to be prepared to hear some things you may not agree on. There are often many ways to reach the same solution. What needs to be determined is if the candidate has the best interest of the community in mind.
Just out of curiosity, Robert, have you considered running?
As for the "running people out of town" and Flint/Pontiac comparison, that came directly from "Linda"'s comment, which I didn't think was a particularly fair comment to make. We suffer from high water bills because our water system usage is below capacity and we have mandatory bond payments to pay. As for the taxes, declining property values and economic migration has reduced tax revenue, and the budget must be balanced either by cutting services/expenses or raising taxes. To this point, I am unaware of any public official that has proposed increasing taxes to cover budget shortfalls.
And as for the comparison with Flint and Pontiac, you can take any cross-section of our community and make a superficial comparison with any other community, good or bad. But if you take anything but a superficial comparison, you'd be comparing an industrialized, urban metro complex with a relatively rural exurb. Why not make the point by comparing apples to apples?
This isn't a matter of being defensive or taking it personally, it's a matter of wanting the discussion to remain productive by looking at root causes and valid comparisons.
(1)Robert, I am a conservative whose views border on libertarian, I will not vote for a millage increase, and I will not vote to introduce any new taxes. (2) Darrin, I write under my own name and I use my last name when I write. I will be sure to relay your answer to Bob when we play golf tomorrow.
Want to generate money tax the non profits. The River church owns a lot of property in this and surrounding areas. I know it would cause hardship on some nonprofit groups but The River church seems to be saving enough money to buy up a lot of land. I wish I did not have to pay my property tax.
Maybe if some of the important people lived in Holly they would pay more attention to what goes on. It is my understanding and I may be wrong that the police cheif and Marsha don't even live in Holly. I also maybe wrong but thought I heard a Rose Township official owns that eye sore old Pontiac dealer. Maybe someone can clear this up for me and correct me if I am wrong.
Also, I'm glad the Village is working with Red Devil on the dealer lot, but what's the hold up? It's one of the biggest eyesores in the entire area. Is there nothing that can be done (e.g. an ordinance, etc.) to spur them on a bit more? Quite frankly, it's ridiculous.
The Pontiac dealership is owned by the Red Devil Restaurant. The Village has been working with them to try to either redevelop the property or tear it down. The âââ €šÂ¬Ã†¦ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…“important peopleâà¢Ã¢ €šÂ¬Ã‚ as you refer to them have a vested interest in the Village of Holly and its success, and I think to suggest that if the Manager or Police Chief lived in the Village that they would do anything differently is simply wrong minded. Government doesnâà¢ÃƒÂ¢ €šÂ¬Ã¢â€žÂ¢t have to be the final answer to all questions though. Homeowners and property owners have a responsibility to maintain and/or improve their property. Parents have a responsibility to reign in and correct their children. And people in general have a responsibility to control and comport themselves in an appropriate manor. Instead far too many people decide reject these responsibilities and then look to government to handle the aftermath.
Jason, yes I did seriously consider running for about 2 minutes before banishing the thought. There are many reasons I wonââà ƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¡Ã‚¬Ã ¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¾Ã‚¢t run.
You?
To the point in hand, I think one of the problems as pointed out by Tracy, Laura, and others is the problem of blight, especially as it relates to zoning. Whoever thought that allowing industrial factories on the main street through town or on the the shore of a lake was a good idea? Or that a mechanic on one corner and what appears to be a junkyard on the other corner were conducive to a vibrant downtown? I know these decisions were made long before any of us, and comparisons between Flint and Holly are suspect, but if actions are not taken now, Holly will be a broken backwater between Pontiac and Flint, instead of the the beacon we could be.
Robert, in case my question was taken the wrong way, I wasn't trying to be accusatory or anything by asking you if you had considered running. You seem to have opinions and ideas. The best way to implement them is by being active and I was sincerely wondering if you had considered. As to your question, I would be lying if I said I haven't given it some serious thought. If I do run expect to see campaigning start sometime near August. Maybe starting right before the Carry Nation festival...
I have nothing to hide and have laid the story out there for everyone to see. I have nothing to be embarrassed about because I have been railroaded out of my job by people who have everything to hide.
I will get my job back eventually, but it is my misfortune to be caught in this predicament where people more powerful than myself have a need to cover-up a problem and to use me as a convenient scapegoat. It is a sad commentary on this community that this situation is allowed to go on without inquiry into the specifics by those who have a vested interest in how the village is managed.
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