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Holly Downtown Development Authority rejects survey funding request

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Written by Amy Mayhew
Tuesday, March 09 2010

HOLLY, Michigan – Budget reductions and a prior financial commitment of $4,500 to the ongoing Village Office reuse study are to blame for Holly’s Downtown Development Authority Board of Directors’ decision to not fund the proposed Economic Development Task Force market research survey.

In September, the Holly Area Economic Development Task Force was born – a group of concerned area citizens from throughout the community, interested in identifying ways to help spur economic development not only in the village, but also in the township.

Charged with leading the group, Holly Township Trustee Janet Leslie enlisted the help of resident Ryan Bladzik, owner/principal of Great Lakes Creative Marketing and Communications in developing a market research survey.

Bladzik, who volunteered his professional services to the cause, said the 37-question marketing survey covers a wide assortment of  demographic categories, including employment, consumer habits, dining habits, opinions and attitudes, lifestyle information, media and information and activities and hobbies, giving area businesses and organizations key information in spurring economic growth.


In February, the Holly Area Chamber of Commerce agreed to allow the EDTF use of its copier for the 2,000 surveys. In turn, the EDTF asked the DDA to fund the $1,700 necessary for postage and self-addressed stamped envelopes for the mailing.

After removing the issue from the table during the March 8 DDA Board of Directors meeting, board member Jeannie Montooth said, “In our dire straights of no money, little money and $1,700 and other bills, I suggest we don’t fund it,” she said. “I’m going to vote no.”

John Winglemire, DDA Board chairman for said in addition to the DDA’s commitment to help fund the Village Office reuse study, he worried about possible DDA budget cuts, and asked Village Manager Marsha Powers to bring the board up to speed.

“It was discussed at the last council budget work session that the council may look to the DDA to help the council balance our budget this year,” Powers said. “We’re looking at as many as three layoffs, and a $277,000 proposed budget deficit for 2010-2011, so there was talk that maybe the DDA would forego the 100 percent of the tax capture into your DDA fund and look to let the general fund of the village use some,” she added. “Other communities do that.”

Winglemire asked Powers for specific DDA budget cut figures.

“They said something about $50,000 to $60,000, but no amount was committed to because we’re still in all those budget discussions,” she said.

Before making his decision, board member Marty Lorenz asked if the surveys would be individually numbered, if it would be known where the specific surveys are coming from, and when the board could expect the surveys, data research and analysis to be completed.

Bladzik said the surveys could certainly be numbered, and that certain questions on the survey would allow analysts to determine from what part of the community the survey came. Additionally, Bladzik said he hoped to have the surveys back within six weeks time and the report in the hands of board members no later than Memorial Day. “If we can get it done sooner, I’m all for that,” Bladzik added.

Lorenz said he thought the postage cost could be reduced by requiring the survey taker to be required to provide the necessary return postage. “To cut the cost – make them mail it back,” Lorenz said. “If someone isn’t willing to spend 44 cents then I really don’t care what they think.”

Powers reminded DDA board members that the ongoing Urban Resource Alliance study on the Village Offices also will include demographic information. “There’s a lot of that information that’s in the survey that they’re putting together that you will get as a final report from the study,” she said. Powers said Urban Resource Alliance hopes to have the study wrapped up by May 1.

Lorenz moved to provide the EDTF with partial funding of $400, and fellow board member Jim Hilty seconded the motion.

“What advantage does this study give to us that we haven’t already had before us?” board member Lisa Clark asked.

Winglemire admitted he didn’t know. “Probably not a lot,” he said. “The thing that bothers me is that we didn’t – we weren’t in on it at the beginning,” he said. “They just did it and now they want some money from us, and it’s not in our budget,” he added. “I’m a little leery of it.”

“I honestly think if we have to make up this $4,500 for the Village Offices, I’m not entirely certain at this point that we can afford to do it,” Clark said. “Everything is cut so badly and while I think it would be wonderful and I thank them for the idea and the fact that they could do it so economically, I don’t think I would vote for it.”

In a vote of 4-3, the EDTF request was denied with Lorenz, Hilty and Kel Leigh Coale casting the three votes favoring funding.

On Tuesday, Leslie explained her disappointment in the DDA’s decision. “I’m not nearly as disappointed in the DDA board’s decision to not help fund the survey as I am in the DDA chairman’s statement that the DDA was not in on the creation of the survey itself,” Leslie said. “Their own former DDA director was instrumental in the formation of the EDTF, in the decision to create a survey, and in the early discussions of what questions to include in the survey,” she added. “It’s a shame the board is not aware of the good work their own director was doing, and it’s a bigger shame that they do not share her passion for this project.”

Bladzik was equally disappointed. “I am disappointed that the DDA board opted not to support the activities of the EDTF,” he said. “Although the economic conditions require everyone to be budget-conscious, it was especially disappointing that the board spent nearly twice as much time discussing actions and expenditures that serve to enhance their own businesses instead of partnering on a highly discounted project that would have furthered their organization and the Holly community at large,” he added. “Nevertheless, I’m encouraged by the widespread support the EDTF has among residents, business owners and community leaders, and I look forward to continuing to help the EDTF strengthen the entire community and build a bright future for Holly.”

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0 #1 j.t Tuesday, February 07 2012 11:52am
Can't anybody agree on anything in Holly?It seems to me that the problems in town are more than just money!
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0 #2 Janet Leslie Tuesday, February 07 2012 11:52am
Flashback to December 2009: DDA Executive Director Suzanne Perreault receives "Guts and Determination" award from Main Street Oakland County. Are we beginning to understand why Oakland County considered her position so challenging?
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0 #3 Darrin Tuesday, February 07 2012 11:52am
Letââà ƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¡Ã‚¬Ã ¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¾Ã‚¢s take a few quotes in successionâà ƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚¬ ¦
âââ €šÂ¬ Å“In our dire straits of no money, little money and $1,700 and other bills, I suggest we donââà ƒÂ¢ €šÂ¬ à¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¾Ã‚¢t fund it, Iââࢠ€šÂ¬ à¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¾Ã‚¢m going to vote no.âââ €šÂ¬  âââ €šÂ¬ à¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚¬Ã…“ REPLY: Perhaps the only reasonable argument against the survey, yet incredibly short-sighted. Apparently the board likes facing budget deficits, since it enjoys flushing potential seeds for growth down the toilet.
âââ €šÂ¬ Å“To cut the cost âââ €šÂ¬ à¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚¬Ã…“ make them mail it back, if someone isnââà ƒÂ¢ €šÂ¬ à¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¾Ã‚¢t willing to spend 44 cents then I really donââà ƒÂ¢ €šÂ¬ à¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¾Ã‚¢t care what they think.âââ €šÂ¬  âââ €šÂ¬ à¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚¬Ã…“ REPLY: Clearly this is someone who knows nothing about business and even less about market research. And even if there is an alternative method, itââà ¢ €šÂ¬ à¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¾Ã‚¢s a highly arrogant comment. Well guess what, pal? We donââà ƒÂ¢ €šÂ¬ à¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¾Ã‚¢t care what you think either!
âââ €šÂ¬ Å“What advantage does this study give to us that we havenâà¢ÃƒÂ¢ €šÂ¬ à¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¾Ã‚¢t already had before us?âââ €šÂ¬  âââ €šÂ¬ à¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚¬Ã…“ REPLY: Umm, up-to-date data regarding the demographics, lifestyles, and preferences of Holly area residents at a time when we desperately need to develop the economy in a way that serves the needs, wants, and desires of those who reside here. And given the number of bad decision-makers evident here, we need all the good data we can get!
âââ €šÂ¬ Å“They just did it and now they want some money from us, and itââà ¢ €šÂ¬ à¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¾Ã‚¢s not in our budget, Iââࢠ€šÂ¬ à¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¾Ã‚¢m a little leery of it.âââ €šÂ¬  âââ €šÂ¬ à¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â‚¬Å¡Ã‚¬Ã…“ REPLY: (Putting Janetâà¢ÃƒÂ¢ €šÂ¬ à¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¾Ã‚¢s comments aside)âà¢Ã¢ €šÂ¬ ¦ Why doesnâà¢ÃƒÂ¢ €šÂ¬ à¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¾Ã‚¢t the board just put up a sign that reads: âââ €šÂ¬ Å“Good and/or beneficial ideas not accepted during January through October, or when itââà ¢ €šÂ¬ à¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¾Ã‚¢s partly cloudyâà¢Ã¢ €šÂ¬ Ã ¢Ã¢â €šÂ¬ ¦
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0 #4 Jason Hughes Tuesday, February 07 2012 11:52am
Sarcasm aside, I am very disheartened that members of boards and councils would claim that they weren't included in activities or projects.

There are individuals pouring their heart and soul into this community as volunteers and doing everything they can to advertise their work sessions and meetings as open to the public. Are members of the board that 'out-of-touch' with the goings on and the desire of the majority of Holly's population? And if they are, what exactly is it that was used to reinforce the individuals decision to vote one way or the other?

I am glad that comments and quotes were included (a big thank you Amy!). Hopefully with this type of reporting voters will get a better idea of the representation that exists on each board, committee and council.
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0 #5 Jason Hughes Tuesday, February 07 2012 11:52am
Wait a minute folks. Winglemire is right. As often as I hear requests for volunteers and assistance from the many committees, councils and volunteer groups in this community, I still haven't received my engraved invitation!

I mean think about it for a moment. If X amount of dollars is spent on a survey that brings in a business, which intern pays X amount of taxes into our local community, how does this support the faltering flower pot industry that this community is built on? Geez people, think about those struggling flourists and potters... (no offence to those potters and flourists in the community, I was being sarcastic and mean no disrespect)
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0 #6 Brian Tuesday, February 07 2012 11:52am
Can somebody explain to me how the DDA is funded and how the village can just take money from the DDA. Doesn't the township also fund the DDA?

The way understand Tax Increment Financing is that all the properties in the DDA district pay their normal property taxes to the village, township and county. The increase in value due to being in the DDA district (how do you compute that?) is then captured and used to finance the DDA. So is the village going to be taking money from the DDA that was added by the township? Can't the township take their money back?

Does this make any sense?
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0 #7 Vera Hogan Tuesday, February 07 2012 11:52am
If anyone would like to research the laws on Downtown Development Authorities, know how tax increment financing works, etc., Google "Michigan Legislature - Act 197 of 1975." It's all there in black and white. Somewhat complicated and convoluted (as in TMI), but it is very clear what can and cannot be done.
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0 #8 Ryan Tuesday, February 07 2012 11:52am
Sorry everyone, my previous comment bombed the comment module!

Here it is again...hopefully it works this time.

Goodman, while I cannot address item 1, I would be glad to speak to item 2. The EDTF has presented its activities and proposals to the Holly Chamber of Commerce, Village Council, Township Board of Trustees and the DDA Board of Directors. In each presentation, the groups were provided with draft surveys to see the specific questions that would be asked, and I provided a variety of hypothetical uses for the compiled data.

Some of the examples were:
Learning about how community members get their news and what media they use can inform business and organizations how to more effectively advertise, promote events, or communicate information.

Prospective business owners and entrepreneurs could discover market niches based on the interests and activities of residents.

Our event and festival planners could tailor their events based on the same data. Dining habit data would help potential restaurant owners know what attributes our residents most like in an eatery.

Employment and education data and commuting distances can be important factors in master plan reviews and job/industrial development

We were also clear that the final report would provide no "silver bullets" or clear-cut "do this" answers, but would be a resource and tool for anyone who has the data. It really would be up to the individual to decide what to do if they know that "60% of survey respondents eat dinner at a restaurant 5 or more times per week."
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0 #9 Goodman Tuesday, February 07 2012 11:52am
I hope the people can tolerate motion sickness, because here we are being taken backwards yet again!

Seriously though, one of two things happened (or both). 1) The decision-makers in question donââà ƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¡Ã‚¬Ã ¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¾Ã‚¢t know how to make good decisions. Or 2) the presentation of the business case needs work. Regarding item 1, I guess if they donââà ƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¡Ã‚¬Ã ¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¾Ã‚¢t understand the value of this survey, I have even less confidence theyââ ‚¬Ã  ¢ÃƒÂ¢Ã¢â€šÂ¬Ã…¾Ã‚¢d understand how to apply the results of the survey. This could end up being an avoidance of waste, driven solely by incompetence. Regarding item 2, I hope scenarios were laid out that demonstrated how the survey data would be used, and even moreso, a couple hypothetical ROIs attached that made the benefits plain as day (bad decision-makers need more help than the average Joe).

Either way, approval of this survey should have been a formality. Instead, these people tried to out-think themselves and/or take a stand for effect. Either way, they failed miserably at what they were put there to do.
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0 #10 Darrin Tuesday, February 07 2012 11:52am
I want to thank Amy Mayhew for this article and for including specific quotes along the way. It clearly illustrates the ignorance, arrogance, and lack of forward-thinking prevalent among most of those on the board. Clearly they are not fit to hold any position that requires common sense or well-thought-out decision-making. A first-class embarrassment!

Why don't these folks have the ability to think at least a half a step ahead? Do they not see how this data would be put to use? There are two sides to any budget equation. While this represents a $1,700 investment, do they not understand the long-term potential this study has to help Holly make informed decisions about development--a key step towards effectively enhancing the taxbase and bringing in additional dollars to the community?

And the worst part...every day this is delayed is another day of lost opportunity! I hope we don't give up the fight on this one...
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