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Written by Amy Mayhew
Thursday, January 10 2013

The Holly DDA purchased the ho...

HOLLY, Michigan – While many are happy to know that the village of Holly is planning to demolish the rundown multi-residence structure on the corner of Maple and First Streets, resident and local businessman, John Lauve is completely against the idea.

In November, board members belonging to Holly’s Downtown Development Authority allocated approximately $23,000 in funding to buy the dilapidated 3-story structure located at 102 First Street. The DDA immediately deeded the property to the village of Holly in return for the village’s promise to demolish the building, and consider other uses for the property including the possibility of creating a 30-35 space parking lot.

Lauve spoke during the public comment segment of the Jan. 8 Village Council meeting, urging council members to consider selling him the structure for $20,000 so that he can refurbish the historic home as part of the “Mill Plaza” area in downtown Holly.


“I currently own two of the five properties that make up the Mill Plaza,” Lauve said. “I own the mill, and the place that’s between the post office and Coleman’s property.”

John Lauve


Lauve said allowing him to renovate and refurbish the “gray mansion” would save the village demolition costs and enhance the overall appeal of the “Mill Plaza,” or that is, the areas immediately adjacent to the Holly Mill including the parking lot, the clock area along Maple Street, and the areas near the post office.

“I’ve taken buildings that were scheduled for demolition and restored them, put them back on the rolls and saved probably $50,000 or $60,000 for the community by doing them,” Lauve said, adding that two such examples included the Holly Mill and another structure on Sherman Street.

“I also refurbished that building that (John) La Croix has down at the Great Lakes Market Place,” Lauve said.  “It had pigeon debris about that deep upstairs,” he said motioning with his hands. “When the roof leaked, it flowed like a waterfall, and now it’s a functioning, attractive building.”

Lauve said his various renovation projects in the village have helped to make Holly a better community. “I haven’t made money on these things, either,” he said. “This isn’t a money deal – it’s because once these places are gone, the charm that’s in Holly disappears.”

In addition to enhancing the “Mill Plaza,” Lauve also spoke about the importance of renovating Holly’s historical train depot, as well as the Waterworks Building on S. Broad Street.

Following Lauve’s comments, Holly resident Sherlynn Everly took the opportunity to express some of her thoughts on the issue to council members.

Sherlynn Everly


“Wouldn’t you all agree that past performance is a good predictor of what’s going to happen in the future?” Everly asked council members. “Well, Mr. Lauve – I’ve watched him save Holly buildings in the past and I think the first one was the building which was the old drug store,” she said. “There was a fire and Mr. Lauve got involved in it, and the village ended up taking him to court in order to get the work done, so that, I think you can expect in the future.”

Everly said the village experienced similar problems when Lauve renovated the Holly Mill. “Mr. Lauve seems to think that every old building is a quality building, and that is not necessarily so,” she said. “He started his project and then he backed off on his promises to the committees that were involved and had to be compelled – I think he might have had to post a bond last time to make him finish the work that he was going to do,” she added. “You can check the records with the village – it should all be a matter of public record and I’m sure our officials would be happy to go back and look at the number of times that doing business with John Lauve in the village has resulted in lawsuits, rancor, meetings, anger – all the stuff that we don’t need.”

Calling the 102 First Street property a “big gray mess,” Everly continued.

“It’s been a big, gray, eyesore piece of crap forever,” she said. “Somebody finally has a plan to do something – let’s follow it through – let’s do it and get more parking, and while you’re at it, add more handicapped parking along (Saginaw) Street because that’s the biggest complaint that I hear.”


Council weighs in

Village Manager Jerry Walker said the estimated cost for demolishing the structure was approximately $20,000, but that $10,000 of its funding could come from Community Development Block Grant monies. An asphalt curbed parking lot, Walker said, would come with an estimated cost of approximately $95,000.

Councilman George Kullis


Councilman George Kullis said he toured the structure, both inside and out, and questioned whether renovations would ever be possible, due to zoning constraints.

“The property was grandfathered in and used as apartments,” Kullis said. “But the zoning for that piece of property is Central Zoning District, so even if we were to look at Mr. Lauve doing what he wants to do, he would have to go before the Zoning Board of Appeals and get that zoning changed and in doing so, he would have to take a plan with him and it would have to be approved by the Planning Commission.”

Kullis said Lauve would also encounter problems from the standpoint of parking. “I think to move forward in the direction that Mr. Lauve wants to go would require some certified contractors, some proposals, architectural drawings on the work that would want to be done, and I guess the question for me first of all, is that something he is willing to go through, and number two, does it even seem feasible at this point that it would be able to get through planning and zoning?”

Councilman Bob Allsop was in favor of selling the property to Lauve.

Councilman Bob Allsop


“If John (Lauve) could come up with an agreement and put insurance on the place so that the village isn’t responsible for it and get working on it, it would be a plus for the township,” he said. “The village wouldn’t have to dish out all this money and we still have taxes coming back and water bills coming back,” Allsop said.

Councilman Ryan Bladzik agreed with Kullis, saying any renovations to the property would either require a variance or complete rezoning.  “Both our Planning Commission and Zoning Board of Appeals have been very reluctant to do spot zoning just as a best practice,” he said.

Additionally, the structure stands in the Central Business District, and now must comply with the current uses. “If it’s going to be an apartment building or a multi-resident building, there needs to be parking there – they can’t just rely on parking across the street, and the way that the lot is configured, I don’t know that there is room for parking.”

Bladzik said there could be other uses for the property other than a parking lot that would conform to the Central Business District uses, including a multi-use office building or townhomes.

Councilman Ryan Bladzik


“My personal opinion is that putting a multi-use building or even townhomes or apartments or something like that is going to have a greater long-term financial benefit than just restoring it into apartments like it is,” Bladzik said.

Should council reconsider and sell the property to Lauve, Bladzik said he had concerns over how long the process could take in pushing the matter through the Planning Commission and the Zoning Board of Appeals.

“In the meantime, the dump is still sitting there,” he said. “It could be sitting there for a year or a year and a half to say nothing of how long the renovations would actually take.”

Allsop’s motion to strike a deal with John Lauve went unsupported, and as a result, died.

Bladzik then made the motion to send the issue to the Community Development Committee so that they may make future recommendations to council for possible uses of the property.

The motion passed 6-1 with Allsop casting the dissenting vote.


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#1 Jasper Fineren 2013-01-10 11:46
Here's to hoping the village will stick to its original plan for this dilapidated structure. It has been an eyesore for more years than I can remember and it isnt getting any prettier. It appears Mr. Lauves track record in having to be "compelled" to finish his renovations downtown should speak for itself. It makes no sense to try and save something that will need re-zoning and is in such a state of disrepair. Furthermore, it does not lend any charm to our fair village. Not that a parking lot will add a lot of ambiance but it certainly would look better than that grey behemoth that greets us now.
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#2 Tony E. 2013-01-10 12:04
I made my concerns clear at the meeting regarding this property and what I would like to see happen down the road.

I will say I am not going to get into whether Mr. Lauve should or should not be able to buy this property or what he has or has not done in the past.
What is clear is he cares about the community and has a passion for trying to save old buildings. We may not all agree that certain buildings should be saved. Some people may question whether Mr. Lauve has the capability to put his plans into action or not. Some may point to instances in the past where things may not have gone smoothly.
However, I wish there were 20 more people like him at every meeting showing the caring and passion that he has, putting out ideas and thinking about ways to improve Holly. I will take that any day over apathy. As I told Mr. Lauve, he might not get his way on this issue (and I told him I am not sure he should) but as both a private citizen and as a planning commissioner I want him to continue speaking his mind whenever he feels the desire. Whether 9 out of 10 agree or disagree with him I always have time to listen to passionate ideas that are driven by a desire to make things better. Even if those ideas may sometimes in my opinion not be practical. Tearing down old buildings should not be done without at least a moment of pause and consideration. I thank Mr. Lauve for caring.
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#3 tconnell 2013-01-10 12:33
Recently taking photographs in the area had to avoid that building - did not want to make Holly look bad to outsiders.
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#4 rob 2013-01-10 14:56
I have seen fireman from several different departments using the building for training. As much as we all love John Lauve, the old low income welfare house is nearly a total loss. Were it to be a vacant lot it would enhance the village.

Restore the train station, that is much more in style than old welfare housing.
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#5 lala 2013-01-10 15:04
I grew up in Holly and that house has never lended this village any charm. I feel that by stalling any procedures towards demolition would allow Mr. Lauve to continue arguing about something that really has no basis. If the horse ( or in this case, house) is dead.........get off.
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#6 circus011574 2013-01-10 17:02
Just looking at that place from the outside I can't see how it would make sense to restore it. I think it's too far gone. What is there worth saving? The structural lumber and the foundation? And I'm sure the foundation is probably in need of expensive repair. And if it's framed anything like my 1900 house, there will need to be lots of structural work as well. Raze it.
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#7 Tony E. 2013-01-10 17:15
Big thumbs up to the comment about the train depot.

This house issue is pretty much not an issue. From what I can see, the village owns it. The village has not themselves floated the idea of selling it as a standing structure. So it will come down unless something extraordinary happens.
As I said previously anyone upset with Mr. Lauve for trying to save it should be even MORE upset that it was allowed by previous owners to become what it now is in the first place.
Everyone brings up the ugly green color. I was shown pictures of what appeared to be pretty nice siding (wood?) under the green pressed asbestos covering that we all see now. Seeing that it is possible to envision what the house could have looked at if it was cared for. That is the sad part of this entire story.

So... let's look at reality... The building is coming down. Some sort of improvement to the village will be made in that space. What that is will probably be a big source of public and council/commission/DDA discussion but no matter what ends up there it will be better than what is there right now, January 10 2013.
With that said I hope Mr. Lauve continues to press on regarding the train depot and other structures that are worthy of being fixed so that Holly does indeed save the charm that it has.
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#8 Treasure 2013-01-10 20:46
This is a great article, Thanks Amy!! You do such a great job of keeping up this website, your work is really appreciated!

I wanted to comment on the portion of the topic that addresses more handicap parking. As a person who has chauffeured handicapped people in Holly, I have
noticed that yes, while there are parking spaces, the buildings themselves are not very handicap friendly.

Number one offender on my list is the Holly Hotel. Their restrooms are either up or down, and are difficult to access for handicapped people. The Mill is the only building that I know of which offers a ramp for wheelchairs. It was very thoughtful of Mr. Lauve to install it. I hope that building will be used again, it really is a great structure.
P.S. We miss you Autumn!!

I am in favor of keeping the charms of Holly historic, but while moving forward we should accomodate contemporary needs.

Unfortunately, all historic buildings aren't worth saving. I live in a house that was built in 1860, and it eats up a lot of cash to be sustainable. Saving old homes is a huge challenge!

Are there programs or grants out there for saving these buildings? The National Trust For Historic Preservation (www.preservationnation.org)
is a great resource for information, but I have not found its resources to apply to my situation. If there are other resources I would love to hear about them!
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#9 SHEM001 2013-01-11 09:04
I agree with Sherlynn.Anyone who has seen the properties,that Mr. Lauve owns or rents,must agree that these are some of the biggest "eyesores" in Holly.We do not need another.I hope the plans move forward to tear this building down.Sometimes it is just not possible to "restore" an ailing structure.Tony I agree also with your comments.
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#10 Sophia 2013-01-11 23:38
Mr. Lauve needs to start with cleaning up the properties he already owns. Most are eyesores and need a lot of improvement. Parking is needed downtown to make it more user friendly. Removing the house would be a big improvement. I encourage this project to move forward.
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#11 Sophia 2013-01-11 23:46
The previous Depot Restoration group is now non-existant. They have lost their 501c3 status. Members have died, become ill, moved, etc. Is anyone interested in starting a new group to get this project finished?
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#12 George Kullis 2013-01-12 13:15
There is a Group forming to discuss reviving the Depot project call Jerry Walker or myself if you are interested in being involved.
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#13 Janet Leslie 2013-01-12 16:49
The best time to think about what is to become of Holly's historic structures is when it is still a matter of preservation, rather than a choice between restoration and demolition. Earlier this week Village President Jason Hughes announced the need for two additional members to the Holly Historic District Commission. I hope interested village residents will apply to fill those seats.
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#14 Jason M Hughes 2013-01-14 09:19
The Historic Distric COmmission is now full but I do have two other openings, one on Planning and one on Parks.

Thanks!
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#15 Treasure 2013-01-14 20:19
Just wondering what deems a building "historic" rather than just "old"... is there some sort of certification that makes a property historic? Does something or someone significant have to be associated with the building?
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#16 HollyRes 2013-01-15 09:27
This village is full of run down structures that do NOTHING but cause an embarrassment for the residents who try to better their community. I could list 10 of them right now off the top of my head that should be torn down, and it is about time the village realizes that structures like this one, will only cause property values to sink. Visitors who bring their hard earned money into Holly, to spend on shopping, festivals, antique shows, etc. will potentially take their money elsewhere (Clarkston, Fenton, Milford). Lower property values + fewer visitors because of blight = less money for the VIllage of Holly. Who wants to look at places like this piece of mess?? Residents don't, visitors don't, and if we let John Lauve have his way, it will just remain a mess, much like his other properties have.
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